Thank you Mia for highlighting the base tactics used by people to not just silence those they don’t agree with, but to actively cause them harm. If they are so convinced of the rightness of their point of view they surely should not have to resort to this kind of modern day thuggery to defend their positions. My parents and grandparents are Holocaust survivors and let me tell you this is how it all begins - not with guns and gas chambers but with words, lists, harassment and targeting of people just because they are Jewish
As one of the left-wing doxxed creatives, I thank you Mia for your outstanding article. You have so eloquently articulated our attitudes, our feelings and our current despair.
I implore people to read history. What is happening now is a repeat of an abhorrent period. People said it must never happen again and yet here we are. Thank you Mia for bravely standing up for all of us who believe as you do.
"Usury" is what made the industrial revolution and modern civilization possible.
Of course, you consider that a bad thing and think going back to the days of spending all your time working on the farm, and half of kids dying in their childhood would be a good thing.
Thank you Mia!!! This article is spot on. Let's hope there are serious ramifications for those involved in sharing the lists & spewing endless hatred & vitriol on social media.
I can’t begin to imagine how all this would make you feel. And although I don’t follow a certain person on socials anymore, it didn’t take long to make the connection. I’m so sorry this is happening.
This is a brilliant summary of a shocking situation and crime against that community. I have never loved you more for your words, Mia. Thank you for sharing this.
Yes mean words are so much more "shocking" and a much greater crime then bombing whole blocks of apartment buildings and crushing children to death, aren't they? False equivalency between mean words and actual genocide is false.
Words are for reading. As Mia said, you can feel many things at once. It is awful and heartbreaking and horrific to see bombing. It is awful and heartbreaking and horrific to watch the October 7 footage. Functioning human beings can hold multitudes of feelings at once.
Way to (deliberately?) miss the point. The point is, I am just going to say it bluntly and plainly say that many (though not all) Jews are far more offended by mean words about Jews then they are about the actual painful mass agonizing mass murder and women and children. If you find your ethnic group is less than popular these days, that is the reason why.
I can’t even comprehend what you are going through as a community. It’s baffling to me but I am not surprised. Whilst I’m a centrist (left socially, right economically!) the hatred that spawns from both sides of you don’t agree is staggering. And since covid it’s become seismically worse. Your comment about posting incessantly makes me switch off. I’m tired of it. Stop telling me what and how and when I should feel. The Jewish community in Australia has many MANY supporters. I am most definitely one.
Would the doxxing have taken place if the group had not been discussing ways to have opposing opinions silenced and their careers damaged? I think not... People were not doxxed because they were Jewish. People were called out for trying to intimidate & bully people who were strongly advocating for Israel to stop bombing the life out of Gaza.
I’m not Jewish, but I see what’s happening and am horrified by it. The mental and philosophical acrobatics some people have been performing is something out of a twisted ‘Cirque du Soleil’ show.
Is anyone here really surprised at the antisemitism on on the political left? It's been there for decades. It takes a deliberate effort to not have seen it or to have seen it and dismissed it. Im not trying to be harsh.
But it's such a dangerous thing. And those people spouting it have a lot more dangerous goals in store for everyone if they get full control.
This danger merits me telling everyone here to open your eyes about the political hard left. If you are in their way, or are a perceived enemy, or you are not useful to them anymore, or you are not fully supportive of their revolution, they want you out of the way. If that means death they will do it because "their cause is just".
Look at history.
There is no tactic off limits ( Including doxxing that should not be a surprise either, the left always has a list)
Western civilization is under attack, including thr proHamas demonstrators are telling you right to your face they want to destroy it. Every day. Broadcast to world.
Oh by the way," settler colonialism" theory says it is fine to kill the colonists. Maybe even a requirement. Such is the greatness of our colleges. The USA and Israel are the top 2 colonist enemies and they must be fully destroyed.
Alot of you here are considered colonists, by the way.
If this is all new to you, I hope this little comment gets your thoughts stirring.
The political hard left is always moving, always advancing, it will never stop. Terror and death have been tools for them for a long time, Lenin spoke openly about it.
They may come for you or someone you love one day.
I was pointing out the hard left and their designs. If you are saying that the woke are hard left as well I would 100% agree. Woke is a destabilization tactic for society combined with instilling fear and or hesitation and doubt in the individuals it targets.
I am saying the woke are useful idiots who lack a material class analysis actual Marxists have. While I do not think Communist economics works in actual practice at least Marxists are serious people I can talk to and work with on issues like opposing gun control, opposing U.S. imperialist war, in my case I would say bring them home to defend the borders, but the point is the wars need to be stopped first. Actual Marxists also tend to be against demonizing poor white people, and against shitlib demoralization we see from people like Joe Biden. The woke are not serious people and there is no talking to those insane screeching harpies. They will probably need to forcibly institutionalized in insane asylums along with drug addicts and other degenerates.
IMO we need a broad popular front against the lawfare and imperial tyranny shown by the Biden administration and their woke useful idiots, and the neo-cons and their Zionist and Christian Zionist useful idiots. After we win we can divide and go our separate ways. I honestly give no fucks if the commies get the cities and run them even more into the ground, as long as we defend our borders only, and I am left alone to live my life in peace with my guns in a rural area.
I agree a nonwoke Marxist is nothing like the woke and yes they can be reasoned with and talks are normal etc. One of my best friends is a Marxist actually. 18+ years now.
The woke are way beyond them and on a different branch of the tree.
Thank you Mia for so eloquently speaking out not only for those on the list but those of us who until 7Oct
were just going about our business being ‘normal’ citizens. What is most shocking is that antisemitism and Jew hatred lies malevolently close to the surface, in Australia of all places and by our progressive peers and mates. From lifelong friends you would least expect that shameful behaviour, but there it is”the longest hatred”.
Since 7Oct the tears have only ever been two deep breaths away. I suspect that will go on for a long time.
Unfortunately Mia, left wing attitudes have become like a religion for many. In common with all religions, there is a set of beliefs that must be adhered to. Woe betide the adherent who not only doesn't conform, but is on the side of the opposition.
The left has dictated that Hamas, a prescribed terrorist organisation, is on the side of the angels, and despite unarguable evidence to the contrary, will persist in this belief. I'm so sorry for your pain. This situation is so horrible. The death and destruction on both sides is heartbreaking, but there is no possible way anyone but Hamas can be blamed. That any normal human being would sieze on this to torture others, innocent people, online, is almost beyond belief. What sad little individuals they must be.
"Innocent people"... these people were outed because they were actively campaigning for pro-Palestinian (note, NOT pro-Hamas) people to lose their jobs. That is not what I would call an innocent person.
Further - as someone who generally has voted Liberal or Teal, I've always lived on the right side of centre with respect to politics. It is not 'woke' or 'leftism' to watch the IDF kill thousands of innocent men, women & children and lay the blame for how Israel is CHOOSING to conduct the war at the feet of the leadership of Israel.
It’s really come to something, when people have to suffer online bullying and someone like you justifies it. Why would anyone with a modicum of intelligence, justify the behaviour of someone who spends hours researching a group of people, and creating a spreadsheet for the express purpose of ruining someone’s life? In some cases, the names of and schools attended by their children were published.
You’re missing Mia’s point entirely. She’s asking the question why would anyone do this? Leaving aside political affiliations, she’s expressing amazement and distress at the behaviour of these cowardly bullies. Who made these sick individuals the jury, judge and executioner?
Let me ask you a question. Have you ever attended a music festival or concert? I’m pretty sure the answer to that is ‘yes’. So would you find it acceptable to have dozens of barbarians suddenly arrive and begin raping women and killing scores of innocent people? That’s what started this mess, but the wilfully blind can’t or won’t see it.
Like many others have said since 7 October, Hamas deliberately stores their weapons and ammunition - some of which Australians pay for in the form of financial aid to Palestine - in schools, hospitals and people’s homes. The blame for almost every Palestinian civilian death lies squarely at the feet of Hamas. I’m not Jewish, so I don’t have a horse in the race, but the number of attempts the world leaders and the Jews have made to resolve conflicts between Hamas and the PLO is in the hundreds. In EVERY case, the PLO or Hamas have refused to come to terms.
And if you think the death toll is only on the Palestinian side, stop relying on the mainstream media for your political news and do some research.
1. You have totally ignored the FACT that this group was only outed because people from WITHIN the group leaked the messages as they felt what was being discussed was not right.
2. You have totally ignored the fact that the group was campaigning for people to lose their jobs, their contracts and their online presence. Ie, the group was conducting its own coordinated campaign to destroy the livelihood of those who were anti-war.
Had these people not been campaigning to shut down other Australian's right to protest Israel's war on Palestine, they would not have been outed. This is the ONLY reason that they were outed. It was the people in the group who were judge, jury and executioner of journalists such as Antoinette Lattouf who lost her job because of the campaign led by people who were outed.
As for Mainstream Media - you are joking right? MSM is globally pro-Israel. MSM is NOT reporting on the deaths of the thousands of children. MSM is not reporting on the deaths of families bombed whilst fleeing.
You claim that Hamas & PLO refused to accept terms - that is because the terms never provided the Palestinians true autonomy or independence.
Finally, October 7, followed by Israel's mass bombing & destruction of Gaza is the culmination for decades of unrest, where IDF forces have shot and killed children. Where Hamas has bombed Israel... It just goes on and on and both sides will claim the other is at fault. And now - Israel has no doubt created so much hate in the remaining 2,000,000 Palestinians... there is no outcome that I see leading to peace.
Oh Joy. I just saw some of your other articles you've 'liked'... Apparently you agree that Indigenous Australian owned businesses are embezzling millions of dollars and that Indigenous Australians are given jobs in Public Service regardless of their qualifications or experience and that Indigenous Australians are getting all the jobs of 'regular Australians'... Starting to understand why you don't see an issue with the deaths of people of colour.
Oh Sean, I do love a right fighter! The problem with being a right fighter, is that you’re so blinded by your perceptions, that you really don’t have the capacity to face objective reality. I guess I should be flattered that you’ve gone to the trouble of researching me, but I’m slightly confused as to where you found all the alleged opinions I hold on our indigenous. If you found that on Facebook - the only social media account I have - it’s not me, because I don’t use my real name on Facebook.
Now let’s discuss my opinions on ‘people of colour’. When responding to your comment earlier today, the fact that Palestinians are ‘people of colour’, (ghastly expression by the way) didn’t even enter my head, and the fact that it entered your head, says more about you than it does about me, but that’s by the by. Those who see racism where none exists, are some of the most dangerous people in modern Australia.
The fact, yes fact, Sean, is that I’m a skin member of a mob in the Alice Springs area. I’m a skin sister in law of a very famous Aboriginal woman and therefore, a skin aunty of her even better known daughter. I adore my full blood - that’s how she describes herself - sister in law, and she gives the best hugs in the world. Warren Mundine has had my support in all his endeavours to set up business opportunities for Aborigines in remote areas and that support is on record.
When you know as much about Aborigines as I do, you’ll know that the ‘Big Men’ in remote communities ARE ripping off the taxpayer. However, so are many thousands of white Australians. What I’m angry about is the nepotism and greed of these blokes. They freely allocate government money and mining royalties to their families, and non family members are given a pittance, if anything. I would have thought most people would find that concerning. I’m sick and tired of members of my skin mob dying for want of proper medical care and the gorgeous kids suffering from malnutrition because of the greed of the Big Men, but that’s just me. Strange, I know.
As to the expression ‘regular Australians’, I’ve never used that expression in my life. Everyone who lives in this country is just Australian to me. But in any case, I have a problem with jobs being allocated in any industry or company on the basis of colour, sex, religion, disability or anything else. In my view, employees should be chosen on the basis of merit. As a disabled woman, I was able to work until the age of 66 because I had expertise and long years of experience in my chosen field, and I was bloody good at my job. I never asked for special treatment and none was offered, because it was known that I was against preferential treatment for any reason.
So Sean, maybe you could learn something from this. I’m not in the slightest offended by your baseless allegations, because a good mate, Dr Anthony Dillon, who identifies as indigenous, taught me years ago that offence cannot be given, it can only be taken. I choose not to allow your slurs on my character to affect me in any way, because they come from a place of ignorance and a determination to be right at any cost. I also take inspiration from Socrates, who said, ‘When the debate is lost, slander becomes the tool of the loser.’
Interesting then that you've 'liked' articles & other comments that sprout racist non-sense, you've liked comments that refer to 'native Australians' and 'regular Australians'. You've also liked an article that warns Italians of 'ethnic replacement'... You've liked an article that calls 'The Voice' a shakedown... In fact, the only 'topics' on articles you've liked are either critical of Indigenous Australians, Anti-Ethnics, Anti-Green Energy or are Pro Tucker Carlson! This was easily found by clicking on your name on Substack - it shows every comment & article that you've liked... and the theme is striking!
I literally have no idea what you're talking about! I've never heard of substack, let alone have the app.
I'm happy to say I know that renewable energy is the greatest con ever perpetrated on the human race, and the voice was an exercise in stupidity. When you can show me irrefutable proof that a voice to parliament would stop one Aboriginal woman suffering violence that you can't imagine (I hope), or get every indigenous child three square meals a day, I'll support the concept. As to Tucker Carlson, is he still around? Because I'm apolitical, I read all kinds of people, and sometimes I like them and sometimes I don't. It's called having an open mind.
The only opinion I care about with regards to Aborigines, is that of my indigenous friends and skin family. They know me. You don't know me from a hole in the wall, so your opinion is of no concern to me.
However, what does any of this have to do with the issues in the middle east? Deflection is a handy tool for those who disagree with someone. I find it incredible that you're so determined to be right, that you'd attempt to discredit me as a person to feel superior. Last time I looked, Australia was a free country, where people were allowed to have disparate opinions without having sad little individuals spending time trying to dig up what they consider dirt. If you have nothing more to say on the middle east situation, we'll leave it there.
Using words like "blaming an entire religion for this war is not going to help innocent civilians in Gaza. It won’t bring back the dead or hasten a ceasefire or remove Netanyahu from power. " implies that some people (other than Hamas) are to blame, that a ceasefire is the right solution, that helping the "innocent civilians in Gaza" is more worthy than freeing the hostages, and that removing Netanyahu is a better goal than killing the leadership of Hamas. Your heart is in the right place, but your head is in the clouds. Come down to earth and live with us here in Ashkelon to see the world as it is, not as you dream it could be.
Mia is referring to the apparent goals of these activists, not what her goals are. Read it again and please think twice before you criticise someone who is on our side.
I read and understood her words perfectly well. Her words imply that something other than doxxing CAN "help innocent civilians in Gaza...." Why should we want to hasten a ceasefire if it does nothing other than preserve Hamas? Why should we unilaterally remove our leaders (and for the record, I despise Netanyahu) without, at the same time, getting rid of Hamas' leaders? Why would we want to save their civilian lives at the cost of our own? My objection is not to what she said, but to what she didn't say!
I agree. This war belongs to Hamas the perverted barbarians. Sorry lefties but you can’t fight an urban war without destroying buildings as Hamas not in uniforms shoots IDF from windows and roofs and then goes into tunnels to hide. And then pop out with RPG. quit the cringing about the war and realize that IDF is doing something no army in tne worid could do. And quit the Bibi derangement syndrome.
Every single civilian death is on Sinwars head. Don’t apologize. It’s unseemly.
Mia, I checked my history books and Palestinians had nothing to do with the Holocaust. When you bring it up as some kind of justification to go easy on Jewish people (even when they do horrible sh*t), you’re insulting the memory of those who died in said Holocaust. Judaism is not the same thing as blind loyalty to Israel. An anti-Israel sticker doesn’t mean death to all Jews. It means stop the apartheid and senseless killing of Palestinians. The left is not antisemitic, it’s anti colonialism. We acknowledge the Gadigal people of the Eora nation too by the way, something that you have inexplicably stopped doing by the way - why?
The Prime Minister is promising anti doxxing legislation. The Super Bowl aired commercials against antisemitism. Israeli lobbyist group AIPAC has paid for politicians of all American parties since 1963. You and your fellow zionists are not victims. You have the mightiest of world powers at your beck and call.
Don’t you see how truly dystopian it is to live in a world where the oppressor acts victim, where the wealthy controls the narrative and where we get punished for speaking the truth. I’m not mad at Jewish people. I have many Jewish friends, have worked with Holocaust survivors and my son has Jewish heritage. I’m not mad at you as a Jewish person, Mia. I’m mad at you as a businesswoman and media outlet, for continuing this gaslighting and completely making it about you. How dare you?
I wonder why people are "harassing" you? It couldn't be that many of you are openly advocating for the genocidal mass murder of women and children to steal their land, could it? You might be a Zionist if you think hurtful words are a far bigger tragedy than crushing infants under tons of rubble. So forgive me if I play the world's smallest violin just for you.
Everyone knows Israel has mass murdered 20 TIMES as many children in this latest conflict (((Eugine))) everyone is sick of your tribe for a damn good reason, we are sick of the lying, the mass murder and the land theft, stupid! And then you expect me to pay for it out of my taxes. Can't you sick pieces of shit at least pay for your own goddamn genocide?
The responses since Oct 7 have been shocking and gut-wrenching and overwhelming at times and yet, tbh, not surprising. There's been many indications of underlying anti-semitism from the Left for over a decade. What has taken me by surprise is the brazenness and pride in their stance. I've massively reduced my online presence and will continue to.
Thank you Mia for highlighting the base tactics used by people to not just silence those they don’t agree with, but to actively cause them harm. If they are so convinced of the rightness of their point of view they surely should not have to resort to this kind of modern day thuggery to defend their positions. My parents and grandparents are Holocaust survivors and let me tell you this is how it all begins - not with guns and gas chambers but with words, lists, harassment and targeting of people just because they are Jewish
As one of the left-wing doxxed creatives, I thank you Mia for your outstanding article. You have so eloquently articulated our attitudes, our feelings and our current despair.
Oh noes someone knows you are part of a group actively advocating for genocide, the horror, sob!
Take a break buddy. You’re starting to type non-words
I implore people to read history. What is happening now is a repeat of an abhorrent period. People said it must never happen again and yet here we are. Thank you Mia for bravely standing up for all of us who believe as you do.
If you want to it stop, stop being the worlds shitty asshole of using usury to bankrupt people and doing stuff like funding both sides of wars.
"Usury" is what made the industrial revolution and modern civilization possible.
Of course, you consider that a bad thing and think going back to the days of spending all your time working on the farm, and half of kids dying in their childhood would be a good thing.
What exactly are you referring to?
Thank you Mia!!! This article is spot on. Let's hope there are serious ramifications for those involved in sharing the lists & spewing endless hatred & vitriol on social media.
I can’t begin to imagine how all this would make you feel. And although I don’t follow a certain person on socials anymore, it didn’t take long to make the connection. I’m so sorry this is happening.
Oh noes, someone made the genocidal butchers feel bad. Will no one think of the genocidal butchers? Sob!
> Oh noes, someone made the genocidal butchers feel bad.
Are you talking about Hamas?
Yes of course Raven must mean Hamas.
Hamas - Killed 1,200... took 240 hostages...
Israel - Killed 20,000...displaced over 1,000,000 civilians
Pretty sure Israel is currently winning the kill count 20 to 1...
I guess you should tell Sinwar who is hiding in a tunnel and Haniyeh living in luxury in Doha not to start wars.
You seem to revel in the death of 20,000 innocents. Your absolute lack of humanity is obscene.
This is a brilliant summary of a shocking situation and crime against that community. I have never loved you more for your words, Mia. Thank you for sharing this.
Yes mean words are so much more "shocking" and a much greater crime then bombing whole blocks of apartment buildings and crushing children to death, aren't they? False equivalency between mean words and actual genocide is false.
Words are for reading. As Mia said, you can feel many things at once. It is awful and heartbreaking and horrific to see bombing. It is awful and heartbreaking and horrific to watch the October 7 footage. Functioning human beings can hold multitudes of feelings at once.
Way to (deliberately?) miss the point. The point is, I am just going to say it bluntly and plainly say that many (though not all) Jews are far more offended by mean words about Jews then they are about the actual painful mass agonizing mass murder and women and children. If you find your ethnic group is less than popular these days, that is the reason why.
Urban warfare. That’s how it goes.
Ask your friend Sinwar hiding in tunnels what head thinking on October 7.
I can’t even comprehend what you are going through as a community. It’s baffling to me but I am not surprised. Whilst I’m a centrist (left socially, right economically!) the hatred that spawns from both sides of you don’t agree is staggering. And since covid it’s become seismically worse. Your comment about posting incessantly makes me switch off. I’m tired of it. Stop telling me what and how and when I should feel. The Jewish community in Australia has many MANY supporters. I am most definitely one.
Surely the people who committed to genocide are the actual victims aren't they?
Better watch out I’m coming to poison your well.
Would the doxxing have taken place if the group had not been discussing ways to have opposing opinions silenced and their careers damaged? I think not... People were not doxxed because they were Jewish. People were called out for trying to intimidate & bully people who were strongly advocating for Israel to stop bombing the life out of Gaza.
This is such an incredible and needed piece.
I’m not Jewish, but I see what’s happening and am horrified by it. The mental and philosophical acrobatics some people have been performing is something out of a twisted ‘Cirque du Soleil’ show.
Thanks for your clarity and courage. 💜
If only it had the elegance of Cirque du Soleil
Is anyone here really surprised at the antisemitism on on the political left? It's been there for decades. It takes a deliberate effort to not have seen it or to have seen it and dismissed it. Im not trying to be harsh.
But it's such a dangerous thing. And those people spouting it have a lot more dangerous goals in store for everyone if they get full control.
This danger merits me telling everyone here to open your eyes about the political hard left. If you are in their way, or are a perceived enemy, or you are not useful to them anymore, or you are not fully supportive of their revolution, they want you out of the way. If that means death they will do it because "their cause is just".
Look at history.
There is no tactic off limits ( Including doxxing that should not be a surprise either, the left always has a list)
Western civilization is under attack, including thr proHamas demonstrators are telling you right to your face they want to destroy it. Every day. Broadcast to world.
Oh by the way," settler colonialism" theory says it is fine to kill the colonists. Maybe even a requirement. Such is the greatness of our colleges. The USA and Israel are the top 2 colonist enemies and they must be fully destroyed.
Alot of you here are considered colonists, by the way.
If this is all new to you, I hope this little comment gets your thoughts stirring.
The political hard left is always moving, always advancing, it will never stop. Terror and death have been tools for them for a long time, Lenin spoke openly about it.
They may come for you or someone you love one day.
And they won't be coming to help.
Woke are not "the left," and neo-cons are not "the right." Both are establishment useful idiots for banksters with concentrated wealth and power.
I was pointing out the hard left and their designs. If you are saying that the woke are hard left as well I would 100% agree. Woke is a destabilization tactic for society combined with instilling fear and or hesitation and doubt in the individuals it targets.
I am saying the woke are useful idiots who lack a material class analysis actual Marxists have. While I do not think Communist economics works in actual practice at least Marxists are serious people I can talk to and work with on issues like opposing gun control, opposing U.S. imperialist war, in my case I would say bring them home to defend the borders, but the point is the wars need to be stopped first. Actual Marxists also tend to be against demonizing poor white people, and against shitlib demoralization we see from people like Joe Biden. The woke are not serious people and there is no talking to those insane screeching harpies. They will probably need to forcibly institutionalized in insane asylums along with drug addicts and other degenerates.
IMO we need a broad popular front against the lawfare and imperial tyranny shown by the Biden administration and their woke useful idiots, and the neo-cons and their Zionist and Christian Zionist useful idiots. After we win we can divide and go our separate ways. I honestly give no fucks if the commies get the cities and run them even more into the ground, as long as we defend our borders only, and I am left alone to live my life in peace with my guns in a rural area.
I agree a nonwoke Marxist is nothing like the woke and yes they can be reasoned with and talks are normal etc. One of my best friends is a Marxist actually. 18+ years now.
The woke are way beyond them and on a different branch of the tree.
Woke is leftism taken to its logical conclusion. If you don't realize that, you are the useful idiot.
Thank you Mia for so eloquently speaking out not only for those on the list but those of us who until 7Oct
were just going about our business being ‘normal’ citizens. What is most shocking is that antisemitism and Jew hatred lies malevolently close to the surface, in Australia of all places and by our progressive peers and mates. From lifelong friends you would least expect that shameful behaviour, but there it is”the longest hatred”.
Since 7Oct the tears have only ever been two deep breaths away. I suspect that will go on for a long time.
Unfortunately Mia, left wing attitudes have become like a religion for many. In common with all religions, there is a set of beliefs that must be adhered to. Woe betide the adherent who not only doesn't conform, but is on the side of the opposition.
The left has dictated that Hamas, a prescribed terrorist organisation, is on the side of the angels, and despite unarguable evidence to the contrary, will persist in this belief. I'm so sorry for your pain. This situation is so horrible. The death and destruction on both sides is heartbreaking, but there is no possible way anyone but Hamas can be blamed. That any normal human being would sieze on this to torture others, innocent people, online, is almost beyond belief. What sad little individuals they must be.
"Innocent people"... these people were outed because they were actively campaigning for pro-Palestinian (note, NOT pro-Hamas) people to lose their jobs. That is not what I would call an innocent person.
Further - as someone who generally has voted Liberal or Teal, I've always lived on the right side of centre with respect to politics. It is not 'woke' or 'leftism' to watch the IDF kill thousands of innocent men, women & children and lay the blame for how Israel is CHOOSING to conduct the war at the feet of the leadership of Israel.
It’s really come to something, when people have to suffer online bullying and someone like you justifies it. Why would anyone with a modicum of intelligence, justify the behaviour of someone who spends hours researching a group of people, and creating a spreadsheet for the express purpose of ruining someone’s life? In some cases, the names of and schools attended by their children were published.
You’re missing Mia’s point entirely. She’s asking the question why would anyone do this? Leaving aside political affiliations, she’s expressing amazement and distress at the behaviour of these cowardly bullies. Who made these sick individuals the jury, judge and executioner?
Let me ask you a question. Have you ever attended a music festival or concert? I’m pretty sure the answer to that is ‘yes’. So would you find it acceptable to have dozens of barbarians suddenly arrive and begin raping women and killing scores of innocent people? That’s what started this mess, but the wilfully blind can’t or won’t see it.
Like many others have said since 7 October, Hamas deliberately stores their weapons and ammunition - some of which Australians pay for in the form of financial aid to Palestine - in schools, hospitals and people’s homes. The blame for almost every Palestinian civilian death lies squarely at the feet of Hamas. I’m not Jewish, so I don’t have a horse in the race, but the number of attempts the world leaders and the Jews have made to resolve conflicts between Hamas and the PLO is in the hundreds. In EVERY case, the PLO or Hamas have refused to come to terms.
And if you think the death toll is only on the Palestinian side, stop relying on the mainstream media for your political news and do some research.
1. You have totally ignored the FACT that this group was only outed because people from WITHIN the group leaked the messages as they felt what was being discussed was not right.
2. You have totally ignored the fact that the group was campaigning for people to lose their jobs, their contracts and their online presence. Ie, the group was conducting its own coordinated campaign to destroy the livelihood of those who were anti-war.
Had these people not been campaigning to shut down other Australian's right to protest Israel's war on Palestine, they would not have been outed. This is the ONLY reason that they were outed. It was the people in the group who were judge, jury and executioner of journalists such as Antoinette Lattouf who lost her job because of the campaign led by people who were outed.
As for Mainstream Media - you are joking right? MSM is globally pro-Israel. MSM is NOT reporting on the deaths of the thousands of children. MSM is not reporting on the deaths of families bombed whilst fleeing.
You claim that Hamas & PLO refused to accept terms - that is because the terms never provided the Palestinians true autonomy or independence.
Finally, October 7, followed by Israel's mass bombing & destruction of Gaza is the culmination for decades of unrest, where IDF forces have shot and killed children. Where Hamas has bombed Israel... It just goes on and on and both sides will claim the other is at fault. And now - Israel has no doubt created so much hate in the remaining 2,000,000 Palestinians... there is no outcome that I see leading to peace.
Oh Joy. I just saw some of your other articles you've 'liked'... Apparently you agree that Indigenous Australian owned businesses are embezzling millions of dollars and that Indigenous Australians are given jobs in Public Service regardless of their qualifications or experience and that Indigenous Australians are getting all the jobs of 'regular Australians'... Starting to understand why you don't see an issue with the deaths of people of colour.
Oh Sean, I do love a right fighter! The problem with being a right fighter, is that you’re so blinded by your perceptions, that you really don’t have the capacity to face objective reality. I guess I should be flattered that you’ve gone to the trouble of researching me, but I’m slightly confused as to where you found all the alleged opinions I hold on our indigenous. If you found that on Facebook - the only social media account I have - it’s not me, because I don’t use my real name on Facebook.
Now let’s discuss my opinions on ‘people of colour’. When responding to your comment earlier today, the fact that Palestinians are ‘people of colour’, (ghastly expression by the way) didn’t even enter my head, and the fact that it entered your head, says more about you than it does about me, but that’s by the by. Those who see racism where none exists, are some of the most dangerous people in modern Australia.
The fact, yes fact, Sean, is that I’m a skin member of a mob in the Alice Springs area. I’m a skin sister in law of a very famous Aboriginal woman and therefore, a skin aunty of her even better known daughter. I adore my full blood - that’s how she describes herself - sister in law, and she gives the best hugs in the world. Warren Mundine has had my support in all his endeavours to set up business opportunities for Aborigines in remote areas and that support is on record.
When you know as much about Aborigines as I do, you’ll know that the ‘Big Men’ in remote communities ARE ripping off the taxpayer. However, so are many thousands of white Australians. What I’m angry about is the nepotism and greed of these blokes. They freely allocate government money and mining royalties to their families, and non family members are given a pittance, if anything. I would have thought most people would find that concerning. I’m sick and tired of members of my skin mob dying for want of proper medical care and the gorgeous kids suffering from malnutrition because of the greed of the Big Men, but that’s just me. Strange, I know.
As to the expression ‘regular Australians’, I’ve never used that expression in my life. Everyone who lives in this country is just Australian to me. But in any case, I have a problem with jobs being allocated in any industry or company on the basis of colour, sex, religion, disability or anything else. In my view, employees should be chosen on the basis of merit. As a disabled woman, I was able to work until the age of 66 because I had expertise and long years of experience in my chosen field, and I was bloody good at my job. I never asked for special treatment and none was offered, because it was known that I was against preferential treatment for any reason.
So Sean, maybe you could learn something from this. I’m not in the slightest offended by your baseless allegations, because a good mate, Dr Anthony Dillon, who identifies as indigenous, taught me years ago that offence cannot be given, it can only be taken. I choose not to allow your slurs on my character to affect me in any way, because they come from a place of ignorance and a determination to be right at any cost. I also take inspiration from Socrates, who said, ‘When the debate is lost, slander becomes the tool of the loser.’
Interesting then that you've 'liked' articles & other comments that sprout racist non-sense, you've liked comments that refer to 'native Australians' and 'regular Australians'. You've also liked an article that warns Italians of 'ethnic replacement'... You've liked an article that calls 'The Voice' a shakedown... In fact, the only 'topics' on articles you've liked are either critical of Indigenous Australians, Anti-Ethnics, Anti-Green Energy or are Pro Tucker Carlson! This was easily found by clicking on your name on Substack - it shows every comment & article that you've liked... and the theme is striking!
I literally have no idea what you're talking about! I've never heard of substack, let alone have the app.
I'm happy to say I know that renewable energy is the greatest con ever perpetrated on the human race, and the voice was an exercise in stupidity. When you can show me irrefutable proof that a voice to parliament would stop one Aboriginal woman suffering violence that you can't imagine (I hope), or get every indigenous child three square meals a day, I'll support the concept. As to Tucker Carlson, is he still around? Because I'm apolitical, I read all kinds of people, and sometimes I like them and sometimes I don't. It's called having an open mind.
The only opinion I care about with regards to Aborigines, is that of my indigenous friends and skin family. They know me. You don't know me from a hole in the wall, so your opinion is of no concern to me.
However, what does any of this have to do with the issues in the middle east? Deflection is a handy tool for those who disagree with someone. I find it incredible that you're so determined to be right, that you'd attempt to discredit me as a person to feel superior. Last time I looked, Australia was a free country, where people were allowed to have disparate opinions without having sad little individuals spending time trying to dig up what they consider dirt. If you have nothing more to say on the middle east situation, we'll leave it there.
Using words like "blaming an entire religion for this war is not going to help innocent civilians in Gaza. It won’t bring back the dead or hasten a ceasefire or remove Netanyahu from power. " implies that some people (other than Hamas) are to blame, that a ceasefire is the right solution, that helping the "innocent civilians in Gaza" is more worthy than freeing the hostages, and that removing Netanyahu is a better goal than killing the leadership of Hamas. Your heart is in the right place, but your head is in the clouds. Come down to earth and live with us here in Ashkelon to see the world as it is, not as you dream it could be.
Mia is referring to the apparent goals of these activists, not what her goals are. Read it again and please think twice before you criticise someone who is on our side.
I read and understood her words perfectly well. Her words imply that something other than doxxing CAN "help innocent civilians in Gaza...." Why should we want to hasten a ceasefire if it does nothing other than preserve Hamas? Why should we unilaterally remove our leaders (and for the record, I despise Netanyahu) without, at the same time, getting rid of Hamas' leaders? Why would we want to save their civilian lives at the cost of our own? My objection is not to what she said, but to what she didn't say!
I agree. This war belongs to Hamas the perverted barbarians. Sorry lefties but you can’t fight an urban war without destroying buildings as Hamas not in uniforms shoots IDF from windows and roofs and then goes into tunnels to hide. And then pop out with RPG. quit the cringing about the war and realize that IDF is doing something no army in tne worid could do. And quit the Bibi derangement syndrome.
Every single civilian death is on Sinwars head. Don’t apologize. It’s unseemly.
Mia, I checked my history books and Palestinians had nothing to do with the Holocaust. When you bring it up as some kind of justification to go easy on Jewish people (even when they do horrible sh*t), you’re insulting the memory of those who died in said Holocaust. Judaism is not the same thing as blind loyalty to Israel. An anti-Israel sticker doesn’t mean death to all Jews. It means stop the apartheid and senseless killing of Palestinians. The left is not antisemitic, it’s anti colonialism. We acknowledge the Gadigal people of the Eora nation too by the way, something that you have inexplicably stopped doing by the way - why?
The Prime Minister is promising anti doxxing legislation. The Super Bowl aired commercials against antisemitism. Israeli lobbyist group AIPAC has paid for politicians of all American parties since 1963. You and your fellow zionists are not victims. You have the mightiest of world powers at your beck and call.
Don’t you see how truly dystopian it is to live in a world where the oppressor acts victim, where the wealthy controls the narrative and where we get punished for speaking the truth. I’m not mad at Jewish people. I have many Jewish friends, have worked with Holocaust survivors and my son has Jewish heritage. I’m not mad at you as a Jewish person, Mia. I’m mad at you as a businesswoman and media outlet, for continuing this gaslighting and completely making it about you. How dare you?
I wonder why people are "harassing" you? It couldn't be that many of you are openly advocating for the genocidal mass murder of women and children to steal their land, could it? You might be a Zionist if you think hurtful words are a far bigger tragedy than crushing infants under tons of rubble. So forgive me if I play the world's smallest violin just for you.
> It couldn't be that many of you are openly advocating for the genocidal mass murder of women and children to steal their land, could it?
No, she's not a Hamas supporter.
Everyone knows Israel has mass murdered 20 TIMES as many children in this latest conflict (((Eugine))) everyone is sick of your tribe for a damn good reason, we are sick of the lying, the mass murder and the land theft, stupid! And then you expect me to pay for it out of my taxes. Can't you sick pieces of shit at least pay for your own goddamn genocide?
The responses since Oct 7 have been shocking and gut-wrenching and overwhelming at times and yet, tbh, not surprising. There's been many indications of underlying anti-semitism from the Left for over a decade. What has taken me by surprise is the brazenness and pride in their stance. I've massively reduced my online presence and will continue to.